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Where Do We Go From Here? Recovering from the Effects and Trauma of Lockdown… and How to Take Care of Our Mental Wellness - Healing Rosie
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Where Do We Go From Here? Recovering from the Effects and Trauma of Lockdown… and How to Take Care of Our Mental Wellness

It’s been almost three years since the world lockdown. And yet, despite things “returning to normal,” we are still dealing with the adverse side effects of the pandemic.

I was devastated when it was first announced that schools would close and everyone should stay at home.

I remember thinking, “what about those families where home isn’t a safe place?”

“What about the women who are going to be locked in with an abusive husband?”

“What about the children locked down with parents with marriage struggles, who witness lots of fighting and now whose parents can’t escape each other?”

This pandemic has inflicted a lot of psychological trauma. And not only that, it has also created moraeus health issues.

Many women inside the Healing Rosie FB Group have lamented gaining 20-40lbs during the lockdown.

Not having a normal routine, not moving regularly, and being afraid and unable to cope well has led many of us to stress eat.

We’ve seen a lot of families broken apart, marriages disintegrate and people dealing with relentless depression and anxiety.

Collectively we are just starting to rebuild our lives from the ashes of a really destructive time, and many are still struggling to cope.

If you’re struggling, I want you to have some guiding light to help you find your way out of these struggles.

How do we manage all of this stress and anxiety and depression and the dissonance that we’re feeling in our heads from a really traumatic time?

I invited Dr. Lindsey Elmore, a leader in the mental wellness movement, to show us how to reduce the risk of mental health challenges.

We’re going to explore:

  • The shocking statistics on mental illness that resulted from the pandemic
  • What they should have told us to do during the pandemic instead of spreading panic
  • Gained weight during the pandemic? Take this to help shred belly fat
  • 4 easy steps to reducing stress. HINT: These steps also help your mental well being
  • How healing this part of your body will help your mental health


5:22  Shocking statistics on mental health due to the pandemic

10:37 The missed opportunity that could have transformed the American Health Care 

12:13 What we need to do right now to take care of our physical and mental wellness

17:07 Your next steps to take care of your physical and mental well being

18:38 Taking care of our gut microbiome for mental wellness

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Misty Williams  00:01

Hey, sister, this is Misty Williams, founder of healingrosie.com. And I’m so excited to welcome you to Rosie Radio. Tune in to find clarity, direction and hope for your healing. New episodes drop every Tuesday. We created this show to empower you to regain control of your life and feel like yourself again. Yes, sister, it is possible. 


Misty Williams  00:20

Well, today we are going to have a conversation with my friend Dr. Lindsey Elmore, about the mental health crisis that we’re dealing with in the year 2022 to two years into the pandemic, where collectively as a society, whether you’re here in the United States, or you’re listening from the UK, or Australia or some other part of the world, we have together gone through a really traumatic reckoning with this pandemic.


Misty Williams  00:20

And I remember the first thought crossing my mind when I heard that we were going to go into two weeks to slow the spread. Oh my gosh, what about those families where home isn’t a safe place? What about the women who are locked in homes with an abusive husband or the children who are locked in homes with parents whose marriage struggles where there’s a lot of fighting, and now they can’t escape each other? 


Misty Williams  00:51

There has been not only the controversy surrounding the pandemic itself, but the impact this has had on us at a micro level, you think about the early days of the pandemic, when all of us went into lockdown for the very first time. 


Misty Williams  01:01

You think about kids, my own niece was in high school still is in high school. And she experienced her sophomore year, doing school from home for the first time right in the school district that really had no idea how to effectively teach children to learn in a remote setting, and she is just now starting to talk to me about the trauma that she endured through that time. And the effect that it had on her mental health. 


Misty Williams  02:03

She’s actually using those words with me now. And Misty, it was really really hard on my mental health and talking about how scared and overwhelmed she felt being tremendous anxiety that she endured because she is basically locked in her room for a year. That’s what it amounted to for her. She wasn’t going to school, her mom was very concerned about the safety of being out in public. 


Misty Williams  02:27

So she actually didn’t leave her home for a really long time. And it was very scary and overwhelming for her. She’s in high school where everything counts for college. And she has a year of really struggling with her grades and everything else that goes along with it. 


Misty Williams  02:44

So collectively, we have been through a lot of mental and psychological trauma. And for many people, I see women in our community who are talking about the 20 or 30 or 40 pounds that they’ve gained during the lockdown, not moving,  not having a normal routines, maybe doing emotional stress eating to cope with what’s happening. 


Misty Williams  03:10

I’m seeing my cousins emerge from what happened with COVID actually feeling more fearful than ever about what’s happening in our world. I think the vulnerability of living in a society that can lock everyone down, like we’ve all been locked down for some people is a lot to process. 


Misty Williams  03:28

I want us to talk about this today with Dr. Lindsey. Because this is a very real area of struggle that we’re all dealing with. We are all trying to figure out what do we do about our emotional health through this time, we’ve seen marriages disintegrate, families broken apart. Because of what they’ve endured over the last couple of years. People are rebuilding their lives from the ashes of a really destructive time and they’re struggling, they’re struggling to cope. 


Misty Williams  03:58

I want us to unpack this a little bit and walk away from this conversation not only collectively acknowledging what we’ve all been through, right, we have all been through a lot, even the strong ones had to be strong for a really long time. Right? 


Misty Williams  04:13

So we’ve been through a lot and what’s important is where do we go from here? How do we manage all of this stress and anxiety and depression and the dissonance that we’re feeling in our heads from a really traumatic time? So this is going to be a super powerful conversation. I’m so glad all of you joined us. 


Misty Williams  04:34

Dr. Lindsey Elmore is a board certified pharmacist, functional medicine clinician, speaker, author, entrepreneur, yoga instructor and world renowned wellness expert. She’s an undergraduate with a degree in chemistry from the University of Alabama, Birmingham and a doctorate in pharmacy from the University of California San Francisco. 


Misty Williams  04:51

Lindsay is a leader in the mental wellness movement and helps people craft their microbiome to reduce the risk of mental health challenges. Welcome Lindsey.


Lindsey Elmore  04:59

Hey, thanks so much for having me. Miss you. I’m excited to be here.


Misty Williams  05:03

Well, I’m excited for you to be here. And I’m excited for us to tackle this topic. I set the stage here with some things that I’m observing in my own world as it relates to the world post pandemic posts, march 2020, when everything kind of shifted on it on its axis for all of us.


Misty Williams  05:22

I think it would be helpful maybe if we just heard a little bit from you, what are you seeing in your corner of the world as it relates to our mental health after enduring two years of lockdowns and fear around COVID, anti virus and all the uncertainty that comes with it?


Lindsey Elmore  05:40

Well, I think we’ve seen since 2020, 20% of US adults receive some sort of mental health treatment, and 16% of those are treated with prescription meds, and this is up from 2019 data, etc. And the National Alliance on Mental Illness reports that one in five adults has a mental illness problem each year, one in 20, has a serious mental illness, one in six youths age, ages six to 17, has a mental health disorder. 


Lindsey Elmore  06:17

What’s even scarier is that the lifetime risk of mental illness is 50% by the age of 14, and 75%, by the age of 24. That’s staggering. And we also know that kids, suicide is the second leading cause of death and people between the ages of 10 and 34. 


Lindsey Elmore  06:44

And during the pandemic, we saw an explosion in substance do youth does use disorders, mental illness problems, 12 million Americans had serious thoughts of suicide, because we are not built to be alone, we are built to have a community and one in five people is saying the pandemic was really hard on me. 


Lindsey Elmore  07:10

The worst part of it is that it’s harder now than ever, to access mental health services. People by the millions are saying, I couldn’t get an appointment, I couldn’t get a prescription, I couldn’t get the care that I needed. 


Lindsey Elmore  07:30

And we also saw an explosion of virtual mental health services, which, you get skilled at doing podcasts virtually, is really hard to do like therapy and counseling, there is something about being in the room with someone else when it happens. And so it’s very, very important for us to keep in mind that having those one-on-one conversations is very, very important. 


Lindsey Elmore  08:09

So basically, we’ve had an explosion of mental health problems since the pandemic, and I am one of them. I was living in New York City, when the lock downs happened. And I remember day one, when they were like two weeks to flatten the curve. I instinctively knew. 


Lindsey Elmore  08:29

This is not how you handle a virus like you look at the Spanish Flu of the 1920s. People who were outside had better survivability than people who remained inside. And it makes sense. I mean, I remember my mom teaching me that as a child. 


Lindsey Elmore  08:48

If you’re sick, you must air out your house. And so having that immediate discord of something is off, really started my mental health challenges. And then being in New York just started to see some really weird stuff and started having nightmares, and I just said, what, I’ve got to leave, I’ve got to leave. 


Lindsey Elmore  09:14

There was one week when I didn’t leave my apartment for six days straight. And I was just like, I am going to go Batty, like I’m going to go crazy if I stay here and there were a couple of final straws and just left just left and said I can’t remain in New York anymore. 


Lindsey Elmore  09:39

And so that I am a product of the trauma that happened during the pandemic and I think that a lot of people maybe they had little T trauma. But now I think we basically all universally have big T trauma that needs to be dealt With and unpacked,


Lindsey Elmore  10:01

yeah, I remember feeling in the early days of dependent, I always get my groceries delivered ever since Instacart became a thing. They haven’t brought the groceries to my house. I remember, Roderick and I being so excited to go get our groceries from the grocery store, because we got out of the house, it got us moving again, it changed our flow completely. 


Misty Williams  10:25

I had a friend who had already been planning to move to Austin from LA. And she drove the Tuesday after the pandemic was announced. She drove from LA to Austin and went into lockdown with us. And it was really hard and confronting to watch the messaging around, like, being scared of being in each other’s presence.


Lindsey Elmore  10:54

Can we just take a step back and go? What a missed opportunity? What a missed opportunity, if instead of going on TV and saying, Stay home, sanitize everything, wear a mask, avoid other people. What if we had gone on the news and said, Hey, guys, there’s a virus coming. 


Lindsey Elmore  11:22

We don’t know a lot about it. And so we don’t know what to expect. So what we have been telling you about staying a normal body weight, exercising, sleeping, well stressing less getting diverse vegetables in your diet, if we had gone that direction, we could have actually transformed American health care. 


Lindsey Elmore  11:48

I heard an interview for a woman who ended up quitting Meals on Wheels during the pandemic, because she was just like, we’re delivering this cheap, processed, genetically modified, nutrient devoid food, and food. Yeah, Franklin food, food like products. It’s not food, it’s food like products. 


Lindsey Elmore  12:11

We could be delivering actual food to make people healthy. I mean, the most unhealthy food you can eat in America is inside of a hospital. And that shows how much we truly value health and well being. I mean, if you’re staying in a hospital, you better hope you got a friend to bring you some food because you’re getting white bread and fruit juice. 


Lindsey Elmore  12:37

It’s the most unhealthy food in all of America. It’s such a missed opportunity, I really think, had we taken a step back and not been so obstinate about like, hey, all the things that we kind of joke around that you should do for your immune system. We actually need you to do all of them right now. 


Lindsey Elmore  12:37

If we hadn’t been so maniacal about what people were like, you can’t say Vitamin C helps your immune system. You can’t say that adequate vitamin D stores are important for your immune system, that people who are normal body weight are less likely to have diabetes related infections, all the things and so we just missed an opportunity. 


Lindsey Elmore  13:35

We were on a trajectory, marching us towards very expensive new options for treatment instead of just taking a step back and going like, Okay, well, coronaviruses have existed since the dawn of time. They’re part of our virome we’ve co evolved with them. It’s not like we haven’t seen a Coronavirus in the past. But viral infections in general are fairly similar, right? 


Lindsey Elmore  14:09

If you’ve got known supplements that help to support our immune system, why were we so just like, No, nothing works. And it was very much a missed opportunity to really empower people that like, Hey, you can take control of your health in a radical way that you have never done before. And we are going to help you.


Lindsey Elmore  14:39

Yeah, I think there were definitely people in our space who weren’t trying to be carriers of that message. I certainly saw people like Dave Asprey and a lot of the leaders in the natural health space speaking up and speaking out about things you do to help the immune system. 


Misty Williams  14:57

So I think that’s part of the Rama really is those of us who consider ourselves part of the health space professionally like this where we’ve dedicated our life’s work to see the messaging that has gone on about this virus and the way everything has been so politicized that in itself has inflicted its own trauma. 


Misty Williams  15:23

And we’re all ultimately trying to figure out how to deal with this? What do we do when, when we’re basically having messages thrown at us that don’t feel good, that don’t feel right in our bodies? Like what do we do when we’re dealing with family members who are deeply afraid.


Misty Williams  15:26

 One of my closest friends here in Austin didn’t see his family for two years, they were afraid of getting together. And then once it was time for the family to get together, he started taking a lot of grief because he wasn’t vaccinated and for personal reasons, decided that wasn’t the path that he wanted to take for himself. 


Misty Williams  15:57

And so there was for a time, this fear that my family isn’t going to want me to come around, and I was really a lucky one, my family has been on the side, they’re very red, I grew up in Oklahoma, and they’ve been on the side of we’re gonna be together. And we’re gonna get through this together from the very beginning. And they’ve had a similar ideological perspective on what’s happening. 


Misty Williams  16:25

I have friends who the friend that moved here, during the early days of lockdown her entire family’s from New York, and firsthand what it’s like, in the northeastern United States and what the relationship is, between the social structures up there and this virus and what you need to do in order to participate with the rest of society. Right? 


Misty Williams  16:49

So there’s many, many layers to this trauma conversation, and I would love for us to just start talking really proactively, what can we do now? How do we navigate this when we’re in a soup of toxicity and trauma. 


Misty Williams  17:07

Not only are we dealing with our own response to what’s happening, but we’re feeling the projected energy of people around us who maybe have their own response that could be different from ours, that we’re feeling like we have to navigate. It gets heavy in this space, sometimes.


Lindsey Elmore  17:23

Yeah, I mean, here’s the thing, we just simply need to craft a state of wellbeing, where each individual person knows their own inherent value, their own inherent worth, their magical, like unicorn skills that they have, that nobody else has. Because when you know who you are, and you know, what you’re capable of, it becomes much easier to cope with the normal stresses of life. 


Lindsey Elmore  17:56

It becomes easier to work productively and work fruitfully and ultimately be able to achieve what I think human beings in general are here on earth for which is to contribute to the greater good  of the world. And so we just need to take a step back. And remember who we are. 


Lindsey Elmore  18:19

I mean, how many women do you know that just live in that day to day, I am not enough, I am not enough, I am not enough. And I’m here to tell you that you are enough that you were created on purpose for a purpose. 


Lindsey Elmore  18:33

So the first step is you have to love yourself, and you have to trust your gut. If you’re living in a toxic soup of people telling you stuff that doesn’t feel right to you. Well then hang out with different people literally go and hang out with other people. 


Lindsey Elmore  18:55

I am a big fan of the microbiome. I work on my gut microbiome, because the gut is so critical for our mental wellness. We don’t think about the gut that much, but the gut brain and microbiota access is at the epicenter of this new approach to mental health. 


Lindsey Elmore  19:49

We know that the gut brain axis is extremely important on anxiety and trauma related disorders and that working on the microbiome can be a holistic way to link together the gut brain axis. And so there are certain bacteria that live in your gut, that can reduce cortisol that produce serotonin that produce more dopamine that can help with our GABA signaling so that we get those parasympathetic signals going through our body instead of the sympathetic signals. 


Lindsey Elmore  20:38

I also think there’s been a lot of confusion over the past couple of years. And the confusion is something that we can address with nollie tropic supplements that can help with our cognition, our focus, our mental clarity, all of the things there are probiotics that you can use that help to reduce nervous system inflammation. 


Lindsey Elmore  20:54

The microbiome, literally programs, our HPA axis, which is our stress axis, so the hypothalamus talks to the pituitary, which talks to the adrenal glands, which produce our cortisol and the microbiome programs that early in life, and it leads to a stress response that lasts over the entire lifespan. 


Lindsey Elmore  21:05

Supplements that can help your neurons to fire together more effectively, because we say in neuronal generation, that which wires together fires together, and you can rewire your brain and what fire is, I said that backwards? What fires together wires together? And the more that you work on firing things in the right direction, the better off you’ll be. 


Lindsey Elmore  21:31

So if right now you’re living in just a huge boatload of stress. Number one, one of my favorite things that I’ve learned an Al Anon is never try to regulate anybody else’s behavior other than your own. And yes, that breaks down a little bit when it comes to raising children and whatever, because there does have to be discipline and all the things, but I am so unconcerned what the person over there is doing. 


Lindsey Elmore  22:01

I think that can be powerful if you can get to a place where you’re like, I don’t have to care what another person is doing. Because it’s not my circus, and it’s not my monkeys, right? And so don’t wrangle monkeys that aren’t yours. And so that is a big deal. 


Lindsey Elmore  22:23

And then listen, friends, if you are living under stress, everything else is going to fall apart. Everything else is going to fall apart. And so I don’t care what you do to stress less if that’s meditation, great if it’s going to bed an hour earlier. Great. 


Lindsey Elmore  22:23

Is it uninstalling news apps from your phone? Great? Is it turning your phone off at 9pm? I don’t care. I don’t care what it is that you’re doing to stress less. But if you do not stress less, your gut is never going to heal your gut brain axis is never going to heal. 


Lindsey Elmore  23:00

And if the gut brain axis is leaky, we talk about leaky gut all the time. But if you have a leaky gut, you have leaky brain, leaky skin, leaky vagina, leaky lungs, leaky heart, it’s all leaking, and there are inflammatory mediators that are being dumped into your body. And if you can’t stress less, nothing will ever heal. Stress, I believe is the root cause of, I mean, in functional medicine, we talked about the eight root causes of disease, but there’s a reason that stress is number one, right? 


Lindsey Elmore  23:40

That is the first S in the acronym that we remember because there is no disease, that stress does not make worse, and there is no disease that stress does not cause and so we have to work on healing the gut, and we have to work on bringing in key supplements that can help to specifically work on these neurotransmitters. 


Lindsey Elmore  24:05

We also saw a ton of weight gain in the pandemic and I look at the average, the average millennial gained 41 pounds between March of 2020 and February of 2021. That is a lifetime of problems waiting to happen. The average essential worker put on 38 pounds during the pandemic and so now we’re talking about okay, that means that we’re going to need probiotics that can help to shred belly fat and there are those probiotics that exist. 


Lindsey Elmore  24:52

You can also focus on like, we can work on eating foods that feed bacteria like Anchorman Sia, that is a bacteria of skinny people. And so when I think of mental wellness, number one, your probiotics that you’re using must be strain specific. 


Lindsey Elmore  25:15

It’s not enough to just run to the grocery store and grab willy nilly a supplement, you need to know like, what does that strain actually do, because some strains of bacteria are there for mental wellness, others are there for weight loss, others are there to help heal SIBO others are there to help with digestion, like all of these trillions of bacteria that live on us, in us and around us. 


Lindsey Elmore  25:44

They have different functions. And so you have to know what you’re getting into before just picking something randomly, and going, Oh, well, all probiotics are created equal. 


Lindsey Elmore  25:59

And I also think it can’t be under-stated that you can out stress over eat under sleep and under exercise, any supplement routine. And so we have to also have that self accountability. This isn’t just about taking a supplement and allowing it to solve all my problems. That’s what Western medicine does. And we know that it doesn’t work for chronic illness. 


Lindsey Elmore  26:29

What we have to work on is getting to the point where our entire lifestyle is very healthy, and the supplements are just adding on to all of the good stuff that we’re already doing. Yeah,


Misty Williams  26:44

One of the things that’s coming up, as I’m listening to you talk about this, is that we can reflect on the trauma and the overwhelm that we’ve experienced over the last couple of years. And in this moment, at the time of this recording, it’s summertime and 2022. 


Misty Williams  26:58

Not sure when everyone’s going to be listening to this, of course, but the question that we need to be asking ourselves now is moving forward? What are we going to be committed to in our life, and really taking an inventory? 


Misty Williams  27:13

I really like what you said about the different things that contribute to us feeling so stressed in our lives. I think we could probably look at our reality right now. And the things that are showing up in our world based on our responsibilities and the flow and the commitments that we have in our life and consider.


Misty Williams  27:29

Is this really the track that we want to be running on? And do we, the stressors that we’re experiencing externally in our world? Are we committed to this stress? Right? Is this stress really important to us, and if there is something that needs to change, what has to shift so that those things can change? 


Misty Williams  27:51

Because I think the western model of taking a pill to fix it. I’m sure there’s a part of anyone that’s feeling overwhelmed right now that would be relieved by the idea of taking a pill to fix it. But what we know is that the pills actually don’t fix it in the ways that we’re hoping for. 


Misty Williams  28:10

They make a lot of things worse on the inside. And at some point, someday, we actually have to look at the reality of the lives we’re living and really take inventory and decide what needs to shift and change. And that’s a big topic. That’s a whole podcast in and of itself unpacking all of that, but there are things that we can do. 


Misty Williams  28:35

The thing that I would love for people to take away from this interview is maybe I’m experiencing this reality, but what can I do? I think you’ve shared a lot of great things here, Lindsey, that people can consider from a supplementation perspective and certainly from a moral inventory perspective, but we all need to proactively get acquainted with solutions. 


Misty Williams  28:59

I remember when I first started dating Roderick, one of the things that I, the language that I would use all the time with him was, this is what I want to create with someone. This language of creation, we talked about it a lot. 


Misty Williams  29:13

In the very early days of our relationship the US had not formed yet it was Misty, a person getting to know Roderick, another human being, and we started, like, basically playing in the sandbox. Well, if I’m going to be in a relationship, Roderick lived in California at the time I was in Austin, I don’t want to create a long distance relationship with someone actually. 


Misty Williams  29:37

Here’s what I would like to create instead. And he talked about the things that he would love to create. If you wanted a great home life with someone, he had a daughter who at that time was turning 19, and he raised her as a single dad and he didn’t get to have that. 


Misty Williams  29:54

That home that he always envisioned growing up having for family and I think all of us looking at ourselves as creators of our reality, because we are whether or not we acknowledge ourselves that way or want to really own that power we have to create. 


Misty Williams  30:11

We are all powerful, and we’re creating all the time. By the words we use by the thoughts, we think how we view what’s happened to us over the last couple of years, how we view the future in light of what’s happened to us. We are all powerful creators. 


Misty Williams  30:29

What that means is we do have the power to create something different. If we will step into that and step up for it and commit and resolve. I’m certainly not meaning to be trite. Like, it’s so easy. Certainly I’ve had.


Lindsey Elmore  30:46

Yeah, but we’re not here for easy. 


Misty Williams  30:48

Yes, yes. 


Lindsey Elmore  30:49

We’re not here for easy. The life is supposed to be hard. It’s part of the human condition,


Lindsey Elmore  30:55

It is the human condition. So there’s a lot of things about making choices to change our lives that confront the part of us that doesn’t like things to change and is afraid of what’s on the other side of change, right? But my phoenix has risen from these ashes enough times to know that the courage to change, and the courage to create something different in our life is the driving force behind creating a life and health and prosperity for yourself and your family. 


Misty Williams  31:28

You can’t do it without it. And I wish that for everyone listening that you tap into that courage and find a way to make the changes that you need to make in your life.


Lindsey Elmore  31:38

I want to go back to something that you just said about everybody who would like to take a pill to feel better. But here’s the thing. Pain medications don’t just make you not feel pain, they make you not feel anything. anti anxiety medications don’t make you not feel anxiety, they make you not feel anything, they flatten the effect, right? Sleep medications do not actually get you restorative sleep because it destroys all of your REM cycles. 


Lindsey Elmore  32:08

So all of these are like patchworks that we’re putting on trying to feel better. I mean, who saw the study that came out this week that clearly shows that depression is not a serotonin problem, we make up these theories of how disease works, so that we can create medications that target the problems, right. But that’s exactly the wrong approach 


Lindsey Elmore  32:39

The whole name it, blame it, tame it, that we do where we name a disease, blame it for the symptoms that you’re feeling and tame it with drugs or surgery is broken. It’s simply a broken system, you get down to it friends. 


Lindsey Elmore  32:59

There’s only eight root causes of disease, right? Stress, toxins and toxic hands, allergens and antigens, infections and dysbiosis, nutrient excesses and deficiencies, sedentarism, sleep disorders and socio genomics. If it’s not one of those, you’re missing the point. And so we have to look at what is actually underlying the surface. 


Lindsey Elmore  33:25

Okay, so you feel anxious, what’s underneath that? What’s underneath that? And oftentimes, it comes back to just our core. Our core fears as human beings, whether, people are built, driven towards vengeance driven towards anger driven towards fear towards gluttony, and lust and all of these things, and we simply have to take a step back and go, Well, if there’s a wolf and a sheep inside of me, how do I feed the sheep and quiet the wolf?. 


Lindsey Elmore  34:02

And once we work on quieting the wolf of self doubt of I’m not enough, lack mentality everything is terrible, it will always be terrible, and it’s my fault that it’s terrible. If you live in that world, a benzodiazepine is going to feel really good. 


Lindsey Elmore  34:26

But if you live in a world where you go, I am empowered enough to make this decision. I can do my own research. I can understand that I have special skills and talents that not everybody else can bring to the table. I have the ability to show up as myself and be respected for it. 


Lindsey Elmore  34:46

And that’s where I want people to get to. I want people to understand that. I already said it once created on purpose for a purpose and if you don’t show up for yourself, your purpose doesn’t get lived out. And the people around you and the community around you do not get served like they deserve from you.


Lindsey Elmore  35:14

Yeah, and I know that this is a topic that you’re super passionate about. So much so that you’ve committed to launching podcasts, and being an advocate out there. I’m teaching all of us. I know you have a summit coming up. Yes, Engineering the microbiome. Am I getting that right? 


Lindsey Elmore  35:31

Yes, yes, 


Misty Williams  35:32

Engineering the microbiome Summit, where you’re going to dive deeper into a lot of dimensions of this conversation. And I would love for you just to tell us a little bit more about this event and what you have planned for us.


Lindsey Elmore  35:44

So this event is perfect for anybody who is feeling like their gut is out of whack. Their mental wellness is just not on target. People who can’t lose the weight, go in through crappy menopause just can’t sleep well at night, maybe people who are like, suspecting that maybe I have a stealth, parasitic infection, or a mold toxicity, all of the things and your microbiome is also very important for your sexual health as well. 


Lindsey Elmore  36:15

And so we talk a lot about that. So in the summit, I interviewed more than 40 experts about everything from how to engineer your microbiome to prevent cancer, engineer your microbiome to prevent dementia, how do we engineer our microbiome for Better Skin Health, engineering your microbiome for better sleep to protect you from EMFs? 


Lindsey Elmore  36:40

How do we use cutting edge therapies like ozone, to engineer our microbiome? What does meditation do to our microbiome? Because meditation has powerful impacts on your microbiome. And we even dive into how do we engineer our microbiome for better, better menopause, and even better orgasms we talked through. And so all of these industry experts coming together to really start talking about what 10 years ago, nobody was talking about. 


Lindsey Elmore  37:13

Nobody was talking about the importance of the microbiome, years and years ago. And the emerging data is basically showing us very clearly that the microbiome impacts everything, it is on us, in us around us. And part of the reason that we’re so sick these days is because we talk about the environmental impacts of the microbiome, like the soil microbiome is absolutely critical for generating vitamins and minerals that go into the plants that are grown. 


Lindsey Elmore  37:52

And so this is not your microbiome, it’s not just in you. It’s in you and It’s on you. It’s shared between people. And it is also shared as a communication tool for the entire world. So the microbiome is us. We are our microbiome, we have more bacterial cells, living not just bacteria, bacteria, yeast, fungi, viruses, archaea, all the things. 


Lindsey Elmore  38:25

We have more of those cells than we do human cells, we are more bacteria than we are human, and the entire world is coded in the microbiome. So it’s very important that we really start to dive into what science tells us about how important this is?


Misty Williams  38:47

Yeah, well, I know 10 years ago, when my journey started, the things that we have access to today and what we can do today to optimize where there were nowhere to be found. A decade ago, things have come a long way over the last 10 years. And I’m really excited that you’ve put this together to help educate all of us. 


Misty Williams  39:04

I know when I’ve hosted similar events, the education that I get, as the host, is pretty phenomenal, getting to see some of the top experts in the world. But it’s also really amazing to be able to invite people in to hear into these fantastic conversations and start connecting the dots on your own issues and things that you can do getting those two millimeter shifts that can make all the difference in the results you’re getting. 


Misty Williams  39:27

So right you’re gonna have a link to sign up for this summit in the shownotes over a healingrosy.com. If you would like to join Lindsey and the 40 experts that she’s brought together for this event.Tell us the dates of the event?


Lindsey Elmore  39:42

It will be live free and online September 26 until October the second.


Misty Williams  39:49

That’s right, 2022 So called all of you can go sign up for that. Thank you so much for joining us today. Lindsey. This has been a phenomenal conversation. I hope it was thought provoking for everyone. listening in, makes you think about where you’re at with the pandemic narrative and gives you some ideas on some things that you can do to start creating some shifts in your life. So this has been great. Thanks so much.


Lindsey Elmore  40:12

Thank you. 


Misty Williams  40:13

All right, we’ll see you guys soon. 


Misty Williams  40:15

That’s it for this week’s episode. Thank you for listening. I hope you’re feeling more empowered to overcome your flabby, foggy and fatigue and to reclaim your life. If you haven’t subscribed yet, don’t forget to hit that subscribe button right now so you don’t miss any of our episodes. 


Misty Williams  40:29

We have some awesome shows coming right up. I love reading your reviews and comments too. They inspire me and encourage other Rosie’s to hang out with us and learn all these amazing strategies for healing and living our best lives. Till next time sister. Bye

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Misty Williams spent years struggling to reclaim her health and vitality after surgery to remove an ovarian cyst, life-threatening complications and an endometriosis diagnosis sent her into a brain fog and fatigue tailspin.
Her doctor told her that the only remedies for her issues were drugs and surgeries, that her labs were “normal” and she could “google” to learn more about what was happening to her body.
At 35 years old, Misty embarked on the fight for her quality of life, enduring many more challenges on her road to healing, including an unexplained 45-lb weight gain, debilitating brain fog, fatigue, hypothyroidism, and premature ovarian failure.

She founded HealingRosie.com to provide high-performing women with the resources an community to successfully confront the unexpected chronic health issues that women often experienced as they age.

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